Yes, the true Church consists of all true believers no matter what church they belong to so long as the Scriptures are their guide. The wheat and the tares grow together. God knows who His true followers are no matter where they happen to be!
St.Paul did not believe that only the Scriptures are the guide. He also believed in the traditions taught by the apostles. With Scripture as your only guide, you end up withJehovah Witnesses, etc. and all kinds of things. We all have our own interpretation.
The Scriptures are the only source of doctrine. They were assembled in large part BECAUSE people were running around claiming this or that oral tradition, and because of spurious books claiming to present such traditions. When you start going back to oral traditions, you open the door to exactly the sort of things that happened in the Second Century–Gnosticism, Marcionism, Montanism, etc.. What do you do with something that is claimed to be a tradition of the Church, to be believed by all the faithful–yet it rests almost entirely on a book which a pope, and not just any pope but one who is a saint of the Church and himself one of the great early Fathers, speaking in his office as Pope on a matter of faith, has declared to be spurious and pseudepigraphic and its author anathema?
That said, there’s a legitimate role for tradition. Not oral legends that find no support in the Word of God. Rather, the writings of the Early Church Fathers, the decisions of early councils (the first four being very highly authoritative, the next three being fairly authoritative, later ones often being dubious–you want to defend Fourth Lateran’s authorization of the Inquisition?), and of later great teachers of the Church (within the Roman Catholic Church, teachers like St. Bernard of Clairvaux, St. Anselm of Canterbury, St. Thomas Aquinas, Cajetan, St. Sixto of Siena, Bellarmine, etc.; in the east, John of Damascus, Theophylact, Gregory Palamas, etc.; in the Reformation, Luther, Melanchthon, Chemnitz, Gerhard, Calvin, Beza, Cranmer, Andrewes, etc.) Taken together, they show how the Church has understood Scripture through the centuries. Paying attention to them, not trying to re-invent the wheel, keeps you away from crazy detours like the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, etc..
Back before I went to seminary, I was talking to a pastor who had a very good explanation of how this works. I said, “But sometimes councils contradict each other; likewise the Church Fathers. When the Second Council of Orange says one thing, but the Council of Trent says another; when Augustine says one thing, Gelasius another, Bernard of Clairvaux another, Luther another, Chemnitz another, Cranmer another, what do you do with that?” He answered, “That’s where church tradition isn’t very helpful. But If Orange, Trent, Augustine, Gelasius, Bernard, Luther, Chemnitz and Cranmer are all saying the same thing–that’s telling you something that you disregard at your peril; the whole Church has uniformly understood the Scripture in question one way. THAT is the tradition of the Church properly applied.”
You need to learn more about Mormons, from an actual Mormon.
Crazy detours like Mormons?!?!?
That’s a judgment you aren’t qualified to make, no matter how knowledgeable or factual you are.
For someone who tries to sound “all knowing” you neglect true knowledge in regards to Mormons, Mormonism, etc, and disrespect the truth and good that exists in all religions mentioned above.
Try having a REAL conversation with a Mormon or a jehova witness, THAN come back and give us a more legitimate spiel on what you THINK you know.
Crazy Mormon here! Visit LDS.org if you truly love scripture! There is another witness of Jesus Christ on the earth— and it’s scripture!! It isn’t re-inventing the wheel as much as adding another one. And last i checked bicycles were a lot sturdier than unicycles! Matthew 18:16 is totally true.
There is only one Church…made of of many different fellowships.
“The body of Christ”, “the church” (1 Corinthians 12:27; Ephesians 1:22-23; 4:12; Colossians 1:18,24) is truly “the church of God” (Acts 20:28; 1 Corinthians 1:2; 10:32; 11:22; 15:9; 2 Corinthians 1:1; Galatians 1:13), and the ‘only Christian denomination’ alluded to in the Biblical record.
The church belongs to Christ, not to any man. Therefore, it should not be called after any man or method. Luther himself asked his followers not to call themselves after him. There were no denominations in the church founded on Pentecost. It was simply “the Lord’s church,” “the Way,” or “the churches of (belonging to) Christ. These are descriptions. The church can be called the kingdom of God, the church of (belonging to) God, and several others. When you go by what is written in the Word of God, you find what God wants, and that’s what we should all try to do.
Well there are self proclaimed Christians who make up their own commandment. Hatred of others is a biggy based on differences. Then there are the Christians who are a part of the “Jesus Movement” We are taught to love, honor and respect all of Gods Children. Even the non believers.
How about a unique idea: forget about denominations (meaning division, which Jesus and apostles spoke against) and just worship as the 1st century Christians worshipped–according to scripture. Preach, pray, sing (no mechanical instruments), observe Lord’s supper, and contribute (no tithes since that was of the Old Law) but give as one is prospered.
As it was explained to me by the elders of my congregation, there is no instance of musical instruments being used in worship service specifically mentioned in the New Testament (when describing the order for worship). It isn’t to say they cannot be used at all, nor that God didn’t specifically instruct their use from time-to-time, but it just isn’t laid out for worship.
Personally, that isn’t a conviction of mine. But I understand why it is in place within my congregation, and I can respect that for those who are convicted.
It says Lutheranism for me. I have been to a Lutheran church. This is definitely not the denomination for me. I don’t think the person or persons who made up this test are very informed on the denominations.
Lutheran churches vary greatly, depending on country and tradition… east African Lutherans are definitely different in their worship and spirituality from ELCA Lutherans 😉 or in Germany, a visitor from another Lutheran church might wonder when attending church in Württemberg – they don´t have mass as the liturgy but another tradition dating back to pre-reformation times – while other Lutheran churches worship in the classic Lutheran mass style. Or take the state churches in Sweden or Norway… liberal, open to LGBTIQ* in ministery, eco, dialogue with other religions… and then take SELK or Missouri Synod Lutherans or the conservative majority in Latvia: no women´s ordination, homosexuality is an abomination, etc. – I am rather Lutheran (although I now work in a reformed (presbyterian) church), can´t deny my origins. But I felt lost when I visited a Lutheran church in Geneva, Switzerland. It was a kind of “plastic lutheranism”, I felt not at home.
On the contrary, if you are Catholic Christian you always feel at home in a Catholic church or parish anywhere in the world with same Liturgical services (Eucharist), Readings, Rites…. Unity is evident as Jesus prayed “that all be one”. The 2 billion Christians is number of Catholics around the world….
You should actually be a Mormon! You’re unique and you see the world through the lens of modern day prophecy! For you, it makes total sense that Christianity totally lost it’s way, and therefore God gave us a later day Church with later day prophecy. Hitch your wagons and head to Utah, because redemption is on it’s way!
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was founded by Joseph Smith in the 1830. He believed that he was a Prophet with a vision of God that enabled him to find hidden plates inscribed with the” Book of Mormon”, a text about ancient Israelites who settled in North America. Many Mormon beliefs are unique and unlike those of other Christian denominations. For example, the LDS Church is run by a Prophet whom Mormons believe receives direct guidance from God.
Considering it’s the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints, I do believe they are included in the realm of Christianity. Just because you don’t understand someone else’s religion doesn’t mean you should therefore dismiss it. We absolutely believe in God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, and you quite obviously are including the Fundamentalist LDS in your judgment of our religion.
God made us all on the planet. Therefore we all belong to him. Some just have not seen it yet. Jesus and Holy Spirit is our way show-ers. Jesus lived his life as the example for how we are to live. He left the Holy Spirit for our support. Jesus Christ said so, not a book. The book is helpful if read with the Holy Spirit’s guidance. And one day the whole of the population of planet Earth will know God.
It states I should be an Evangelical. However, if anyone really understands how this name came to be, no real Christian would want to be called one. Instead, I’m a biblicalist. I am, by the grace and direction of God, an Independent Fundamental Baptist.
Fun quiz, but I doubt the validity of some of the question and answers. Eg, as an evangelical, I call the Bible as my final authority, but not the only source. And how is it that you have us check either that we worship Mary or that she has nothing to do with Christianity? Most Christians I know would want a better option.
The quiz needs to be better informed theologically. Itbseeks to be designed to lead people to Lutheranism!
Denominationalism has nothing to do with New Testament Christianity. It has done nothing more than fragment and divide the body of Christ. As people of the way we are followers of our Lord Jesus Christ.