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So.

Heres a little something for those that have ever been involved with youth clubs.

It seems to be a staple of evangelical church youth clubs that every evening features a “God Slot”… or whatever you want to call it. If you’re not sure what I mean, its the part of the youth club wheres theres normally some sort of Christian input, bible study, or short preach of some kind.

The thing is… What do you do if you have the sort of group that doesn’t want to listen? Do you shout “Shut up, and listen to me. God loves you!

Is having some sort of Christian input a useful expectation on youth group leaders?

Is having a “God Slot” each week helpful?

Tell young people about Judgement before you tell them about love

Well we’ve been doing a lot of clearing out recently around here; at one point I came across the above postcard, and to be honest… was kinda shocked. Thankfully it turned out to be publicity from last years Youthwork Summit inviting us to discuss the above statement.

Should we tell young people about judgement before love?
Does our attitude towards certain young people speak of judgement more then love?

Trigger warnings for this one, as some of the links include discussion about possibly sensitive topics. Please remember that some of the following in particular is a review of the comments and discussion made over the last week, and as sometimes is the case, some of which have been apologized for:

Happy Easter Everyone…

Here’s our weekly round up:

Importance of Asking?

ThatAndy —  January 10, 2012 — 1 Comment

A quote that stood out from reading through “Who Needs Words?“:

“Your world is not the same as mine. It has different rules, a different history and a different culture running through its veins.”

This did make me wonder:

When putting together Church programs do we talk more then we should listen and ask?

Babinity?

ThatAndy —  December 12, 2011 — 1 Comment

Came across this on Amazon…

Does this make sense to anyone?

Achieve several awesome goals at one time! Challenge your entire Youth Group to memorize John 1:1. Raise money for your Youth Group through a God-endorsed cause (literacy) by reselling this book. Promote life-changing early baby literacy in your church and in your church’s childcare program (check with high school counselor regarding applicability of community service credit). Promote salvation and maybe even close the achievement gap. Baby Literacy Worldwide is a group of Volunteers who believe that Window 1 literacy can close the achievement gap. We explain it like this. God wants readers, why else would He have written a bible? Continue this thought. When is a person most like God? At birth. “God-like.” When does a person learn most like God? At birth. “God-learning.” Birth-to-age-two is the first and best learning opportunity of life, we call it Window 1. Window 1 is the “digital copier” phase of life because a Zero-two-er simply absorbs and records in this learning phase. The God-like aspect of Window 1 is in the fact that for every piece of information digitally copied by Baby, three more pieces of information can be absorbed-exponential God-learning. Baby + Divinity = Babinity™. If you believe that the bible is the living word of God, then you likely agree that John 1:1 is a most wonderful scripture of the bible. Window 1, a baby’s God-learning, and John 1:1 are a perfect match. Babinity, Salvation Starts At Birth, means 1 minute-a-day of flash cards for 24 months and zero-two Babies will read and maybe even will have a jump start at salvation. Babinity is the matching of the exponential-God-learning-Window 1, first and best learning phase, with John 1:1. The goal of this book is to serve as a catalyst to urge each and every member of your Youth Group to memorize John 1:1. At the same time, stir Youth Group members to get involved in Window 1 literacy (start your research at BabyLiteracyWorldwide.com) by donating their time to your Church’s childcare program to teach early literacy. Finally, allow you to resell this book to those in your congregation who are so moved to purchase this book from you for a recommended donation of $20 (Pastor approval for this program required first, of course) for a 100% fundraising profit. Learn, teach, grow and fundraise all at the same time! More information available at Babinity.com.

Does this make sense to anyone? I’m kinda confused by it all…

10 Things to Pray for Today’s Teenager:

  1. Purpose
  2. Friendships
  3. Character
  4. Purity
  5. Passion
  6. Money
  7. Submission and Honor
  8. Spiritual growth
  9. Discernment
  10. Hope

Check out the full details at  Churchleaders.com

Busy… busy week in the blog world this week:

  • Jesus Needs New PR gets upset… but to be honest, I didn’t even finish watching the video in question…
  • The “Church” discussion continues at The Big Bible.
  • @bigdaddywhale asks a question
  • Did you know that youth pastors aren’t real missionaries?
  • David Keen wonders if The Doctor gets religion?
  • Mike Peatman has been blogging on his Greenbelt memories
  • … and finally… Want to see more from the churchsofa?  Andesmedia looks at social media / digital world, as well as looking at other projects we may get involved with.  Its very early days, but please shout if something doesn’t seem to be working!

In the next of our guest blogs, Thomas from Youth Worker Yarns looks at the dangers of Church sofas…

I thought I might write a bit about sofas and teenagers, so here’s my submission (I’ve also attached it as a separate document):

Not to brag, but my church has three sofas, a load of comfy chairs and a pile of bean bags. And they are good, soft, squishy sofas. I know a few people, myself included, who have had naps on them. When someone announces they’re going to have a lone, quiet prayer-session in the lounge, you know what they really mean.

I’ve run quite a few youth socials in that lounge, from film evenings to a sit down meal with communion. We can pull the sofas around to make a sort of home cinema, or arrange them around coffee tables for a cafe feel. They help to make a really welcoming and relaxing environment and quite often visiting teens will comment on the swanky set up we have.

These sofas, however, aren’t as great as they seem. The first time I visited the church, one of the teens fell off the back of one. Last Friday, one of my youth found a crème egg that was probably lost at Easter nestled between the cushions. I dropped something down the back and, going to reach it, my hand emerged covered in fluff and youth-snack debris. But my concerns over our church sofas goes further than this.

Feeling the youth program needed a bit of a shake-up, I told the teens that we were looking at doing a few things differently. One of the panicked teens asked, “We’re going to keep meeting here? I love this place.” At first I was touched. I thought to myself, “we’ve created a really positive environment, where teens just love to hang out, relax and discover who Jesus is.” But this comment has begun to worry me. What if the teenagers only come for the sofas? What if they don’t want to follow Jesus, and they’re only interested in the squishy cushions? Is the identity of my youth ministry about living life to the full, with God at the centre, or is it built around the room we meet in?

My worry is that the swanky set up only feeds in to the consumerist mind set prevalent in society today. We are simply there to provide a comfortable place where people can chat and relax. The teens just come, eat, play games and go. This isn’t fulfilling Jesus’ commission to us; Jesus did not ask us to “go, buy well upholstered furniture and scatter pillows,” but rather to go and make disciples, baptise them, teach them to obey. The teens just see the lounge as a place where their needs are catered for and any suggestion that they take the initiative and try to put Biblical living into practice go largely ignored.

So, in a way, I miss pews: I have a theory that most missionaries went on their travels to avoid sitting on them another week. I love the fact that our church lounge is welcoming and a fantastic place to show hospitality and inclusivity, but are we just breeding a generation of teens who can’t be bothered to live out their faith and get up off the sofa?

I really hope not.

Thomas is a youth worker with the Exilio Church and Blogs at YouthWorker Yarns.

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Quick request for you all…

One way we’ve found of doing the God slot / talkie bit at youth club is using video in some shape or form as an illustration. Two examples being above and below. We have also used the Soul Trailer to try and provoke discussion.

So is there anyone out there who can recommend other quick videos like these which we can use?